Sunday, June 25, 2006 |
"Gospel of Barnabas" |
نظرات في إنجيل برنابا المبشر بــ نبؤه النبي محمد صلى الله علية و سلم.
وجدت هذا الكتاب القديم "نوعاً ما" في مكتبة عمي الخاصة (شوي ممزق من الجنب فأصلحت الصورة ببرنامج)،
عموماً هو يحمل بعض النصوص من إنجيل بارناباس و التي ترتكز على 3 محاور مهمة: وحدانية الله ، عدم الصلب ، ونبؤه النبي محمد صلى الله عليه و سلم. مع أن الكتاب موجود بالمكتبة منذ زمن لكني لم أركز عليه بصدق ...فقط الآن قررت أن القي نظرة خاطفة لمحتواها و قصته. الكتاب طبعاً يؤيد هذا الإنجيل و انه صحيح مع كثير من الاستعراض و الشرح و التأكيدات. وبما أني لم اقرأ بقية الأناجيل لأحكم لكني أتفق معه في بعض النقاط التي نعرفها كمسلمين. ولهذا قررت أن ابحث عنه و وجدت هذه الوصلات عنه: موقع تعليمي عن إنجيل بارناباس و به فصول الإنجيل كاملة: http://www.barnabas.net/ بحثت عن الإنجيل برنابا بالعربي ، فوجدت أغلبها هجوم علية و دحضه ، منها هذه الوصلة التي تقدم 50 دليلاً على خرافة و زور الكتاب و صاحبة "بعضها معقول و بعضها لا و بعضها لا اعرف عنه الكثير": http://www.servant13.net/abdelmesih/f_abdelmeseih_2_3.htm في نظرتي البسيطة المتواضعة أقول لربما هو ليس متقن و به بعض الأخطاء ولربما مسألة الترجمات هي ما زاد من ضياع بعض معانية الأصلية ، لكن ألا تحمل بقية الأناجيل من التحريف ما يكفيها! ، ومن جهة أخرى اعتبره جيد كونه يقدم بعض الحقائق بشكل صحيح.
هل لي أن اعرف آرائكم؟
"Gospel of Barnabas"What happened that I found a book in my uncle library about the Gospel of Barnabas and how it's announcing the prophecy of Prophet Mohammed. I read it and it was really interesting… there were few texts of this Gospel and the main topics are: the oneness of One God, the refutation of crucifixion and the prophecy of Prophet Mohammed. But there were other interesting topics as well. Anyways, I went to Google to see more and I found this: Educational site on the Gospel of Barnabas http://www.barnabas.net/ :Chosen Text: ((Then said Jesus: `With your words I am not consoled, because where ye hope for light darkness shall come; but my consolation is in the coming of the messenger, who shall destroy every false opinion of me, and his faith shall spread and shall take hold of the whole world, for so hath God promised to Abraham our father. And that which giveth me consolation is that his faith shall have no end, but shall be kept inviolate by God.'))
I went also searching in Arabic to see my dear Arab Christians and what they say. Wow, they are more opposed to this gospel than westerners as I found out. Most of the links attacking this gospel and falsify it.
One of these link "in Arabic of course" claiming to have 50 evidences prove that this Gospel is fictitious and spurious. Well, I read them and to be honest…they have good points in some, but other ones are not real to me, besides, I didn't read the other bibles to know the differences!. Anyways, I think it's good and despite some of its unreal facts, still has real facts and reasonable. Aren't the other gospels got same distortions?!
http://www.servant13.net/abdelmesih/f_abdelmeseih_2_3.htm Now, what do you think about all this?
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posted by Sama Oman @ 12:09 PM |
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Oh, Jeff. That's what I was afraid of when I was thinking not to write here about this book, but put it only in my other blog.
Well, let me say this: I didn't mean to create any division between us. It's a book I found made me thinking. Also, this Gospel has been found by westerners and has been translated to English by them and then an Christian Arab translated to Arabic in 1908. I wanted to see what Christians say in the west and in the east say about this Gospel. So, I found the eastern Christians are more opposed.
As for Christian Arabs I just searched in Google by using the Arabic words of this Gospel, and the links mostly seems to be attacking this Gospel. Anyways, I didn't mean anything wrong. I thought maybe we could discuss about it… one of you can give us clear idea about that. We could find new facts, new truth, we should try to learn …try to see and use our minds. In the book here I found in the last page a question, the Christians fast in the day before the Easter…right. WHY? Because they do what Jesus did and fast like him, but why Jesus fasted?!!! . there was no answer…so WHY?
*** PS: I could write this only in Arabic and discuss with Arabs only, but I thought I can't ignore other readers and exclude them.
Sorry if I made you sad and mad with me, I didn't mean anything but peaceful dialogue with readers. Anyway, I will never write here about religious topics never ever again except my own religion. All these things will be in my other blog.
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I find religous topics very interesting, as long as they are discussed in a proper matured manner...
Where is your other blog Sama dear?
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Nash: That's what I meant, Hope Layal came and saw this post as she drove me to put it here not THERE.
LOOL ….as for THERE, I can't tell what is my other Blog *~*….it's a big secret. Go back and see my 3rd post here and you will understand WHY?. Well, it's secret and only 2 other persons know…my dear friends: AP-F and Abeer =D
Oh, Jeff… Never mind. I can handle anything now. I met there with many people and I learnt how to control myself and talk with them nicely and peacefully. I know how to deal with others when it comes to religious topics. I really appreciate your concern about my feelings and never ever think anything you say will disappoint me. We should have our own opinions and we should disagree to see the same thing in different angles and by wide perspective. I did that many times, don't worry :D
As for your answer, it's superb. It's really good and I know the names of the 4 gospels. As for the Arabic names, I know Matthew= Mata, Luke=Looqa , there are other words like Maraqas maybe for Mark and Yohana maybe for John. Well, I don't think John=Yahya as I know Yahya=Jonathan. That's what I know….!! I liked your explanation about the "Gnostic"…I never knew about this!! So weird indeed. No wonder then to reject such fables like that. Yes, this word "Lent" is for the big fast that you do. Really interesting things you do and again I never knew things like that. So interesting. Yes, I was thinking exactly that you are having your own Ramadan time. so COOL. Oh, Jeff…my DEAR. I really enjoyed reading what you have gave me. I really imagined each thing you wrote. Thank you so much for giving me this opportunity to see and feel the Christians religious rituals. It was really wonderful. Thank you so much. Praise God
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Jeff. How could you make me mad…I really enjoyed knowing all these explanations. Nice to increase my knowledge about other religions. Thank you so much for the link. I downloaded the panorama file to my PC and I watched this gorgeous church with the charming singing. I even gave my brothers this panorama to see. One of them was amazed and he joked with me: what is the big idea? Why you are so interested on Christianity? Are you planning to convert or what?!!! Hahahahahahahahah No…what a silly question!! But I'm fascinated by religions and I love to see the ART of the churches. I saw wonderful paintings on TV and magazines from churches. That was really COOL. As for the singing. It was really touching…but to be honest, I love to the way of their singing, while I'm not sure what they are saying!! Verses from the bible! Can you give me the text to try follow them and see. It's so nice indeed. I have another silly question to you. As I watched on TV many times, I saw the priest giving the people in church like a white thing into their mouths. What is that thing??!!!! Silly question Huh… :(
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والله يا سما انا سمعت اناشيدهم علي الطبيعه مو في التلفزيون خصوصا لما تكون مع الموسيقى شي عجيب تجذب الواحد انه يسمعها حلو طرحكم للموضوع وحديثكم فلازم نشكر جف thanks jeff for your explanation :-)
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jeff i was following your explanation for sama that's why i thank you & what i said is that i've heard church songs it was really amzing- I've been in church before. I've read alot not just about chritiante but all realgion as it very intersting topic for me
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Jeff: Yeah… I forgot to ask you about the people in that panorama…if you were there and maybe you are one of them. There are women and men with the priests. So, you were down under the balcony….so sad :(
I liked the story of Jesus and the followers. I understood immediately what he meant by his words… it was a figurative expression. He meant they should share what they have even if it is so little and be giving and modest. Therefore, when he ate with Apostles, he divided the bread and the drink to share it and want them to share and be giving people. Well, not only in food and drink, "and not specifically wine", but with all things that can be shared and can help others and gather all people under one roof…the roof of brotherhood. So, that white thing called "Communion Wafer". Lovely!! Thank you for the picture…I liked them so much…I love Pope John Paul II….I really did. Well, the new one is not that charming and COOL as him, but maybe he will be as good as the ex-pope!
Oh, only this link was blocking and I don't know why OmanTel blocked it :( http://www.pettipond.com/laterimages/images_y/communion/t_kneeling.jpg I remember once I wanted to visit an educational site and it was blocking by them…What The… !!??? NO, I didn't sent any e-mail to them about that…I wasn't care that much to contact them. Well, at least…I saw all the pictures you gave me and I saved them in my PC. Yeah…I will tell my brothers about that again…hehehehehe…let me see what they will say :D
Thank you sooooooooooo much.
Layal: thank you...coz you pushed me to put it here, not in my other islamic blog. but where is this church that you visit?????
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It is in bahrain sorry sama sorry jeff i know my English spelling is not that much any way i will try to improve it here with u sama :-)
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Oh No...Layal ... your english is so good and don't be shame to try and write. by that you will learn and know your mistakes. How we can ever learn the right without making mistakes ;)
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Oh…I didn't think, but…how. Well, I don't know really.
Superstitious….Are You?! ;)
I don't know anything about the Protestants or their churches, but what is the different between the churches??!!.
Anyways, I liked the new pictures…so lovely. The tabernacle is rally beautiful….i liked the whole pictures…I watched The Inaugural Mass of Pope Benedict XVI in Rome online and I liked the way of their singing. I downloaded the MIDI music to my PC :-)
I liked the last link :D
Yes, so lovely site, despite the page of information about Islam is under construction…but still nice.
Thank you so much.
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السلام عليكم يا اخت سما .. انا باحييكى على موقفك من انجيل برنابا .. و احب ادلك على موقع يمكنك تحميله منه بالعربية
http://www.4shared.com/file/47170554/15ba4f03/Arabic_GOB.html
و اتمنى نكون اصدقاء لو ما كانش عندك مانع
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Oh, Jeff.
That's what I was afraid of when I was thinking not to write here about this book, but put it only in my other blog.
Well, let me say this:
I didn't mean to create any division between us. It's a book I found made me thinking.
Also, this Gospel has been found by westerners and has been translated to English by them and then an Christian Arab translated to Arabic in 1908. I wanted to see what Christians say in the west and in the east say about this Gospel. So, I found the eastern Christians are more opposed.
As for Christian Arabs I just searched in Google by using the Arabic words of this Gospel, and the links mostly seems to be attacking this Gospel. Anyways, I didn't mean anything wrong. I thought maybe we could discuss about it… one of you can give us clear idea about that. We could find new facts, new truth, we should try to learn …try to see and use our minds.
In the book here I found in the last page a question, the Christians fast in the day before the Easter…right. WHY? Because they do what Jesus did and fast like him, but why Jesus fasted?!!! . there was no answer…so WHY?
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PS: I could write this only in Arabic and discuss with Arabs only, but I thought I can't ignore other readers and exclude them.
Sorry if I made you sad and mad with me, I didn't mean anything but peaceful dialogue with readers. Anyway, I will never write here about religious topics never ever again except my own religion. All these things will be in my other blog.